OPP using unmarked Dodge Caravan in the London area

[Human Being]

For those of you who drive the 401 through or near London, be aware of
an unmarked dark Dodge Caravan (Blue or Green).

A light bar should be visible behind the glass of the rear hatch. No
lights on the top.

License number is AKEY 523 (first 4 letters may not be exact, but
it's 4 letters, space, and 523).

It will probably be moving with the traffic, and will nail you from
behind. Most probably it will go with traffic and wait until someone
blows past it at 130 or 140, then it will follow. If you get close
enough to it from behind, look at the plate or look for the lightbar
in the back window (the lightbar will run practically the full width
of the rear window, but is only maybe 2 inches high).

So do what I do and rotate your radar detector to point backwards from
time to time.

Watch out as operation "Highway Thievery" kicks into high gear this
holiday weekend.

[Tony]

I hope the truckers read this. Maybe they can box him in or force him off
the road. Well my shift is almost over at the deli.

Post by Human Being
For those of you who drive the 401 through or near London, be aware of
an unmarked dark Dodge Caravan (Blue or Green).
A light bar should be visible behind the glass of the rear hatch. No
lights on the top.
License number is AKEY 523 (first 4 letters may not be exact, but
it's 4 letters, space, and 523).
It will probably be moving with the traffic, and will nail you from
behind. Most probably it will go with traffic and wait until someone
blows past it at 130 or 140, then it will follow. If you get close
enough to it from behind, look at the plate or look for the lightbar
in the back window (the lightbar will run practically the full width
of the rear window, but is only maybe 2 inches high).
So do what I do and rotate your radar detector to point backwards from
time to time.
Watch out as operation "Highway Thievery" kicks into high gear this
holiday weekend.

[H. Seldon]

Human Being wrote:

<Leave this crap out of here>

Somewhat *Off-Topic* don't you think?? Maybe because you're some
Ontario shithead you figure you can just take this maritime server and
use it as your private bulletin board?

[Tony]

A lot of newsservers still carry this newsgroup. We're trying to kickstart
this newsgroup and bring back thousands of people. At one time this was our
newsgroup. Many people still believe it is our newsgroup.

Post by H. Seldon
<Leave this crap out of here>
Somewhat *Off-Topic* don't you think?? Maybe because you're some Ontario
shithead you figure you can just take this maritime server and use it as
your private bulletin board?

[H. Seldon]

Post by Tony
A lot of newsservers still carry this newsgroup. We're trying to kickstart
this newsgroup and bring back thousands of people. At one time this was our
newsgroup. Many people still believe it is our newsgroup.

Well it's not. You're using the server without paying for it. All of
you who are outside the Aliant customer base have been reported.

[Human Being]

Post by H. Seldon
Well it's not. You're using the server without paying for it.
All of you who are outside the Aliant customer base have been
reported.

Look Mr. Seldon.

Yes, at one point I and others found the Aliant server and started
using it when Sympatico finally shut down their servers. I have
absolutely no remorse or guilt about doing that.

But then a month ago the Aliant server stopped accepting connections
from Sympatico customers.

(if anyone who is an Ontario Sympatico customer is still able to use
the Aliant server, please speak up and say so).

Mr Seldon - if you look at the header of my post, you will see it was
posted via nntp.aioe.org, and not via the Aliant server.

In addition, if you are an Aliant customer, what are you doing reading
the sympatico news groups?

[H. Seldon]

Post by Human Being

Post by H. Seldon
Well it's not. You're using the server without paying for it.
All of you who are outside the Aliant customer base have been
reported.

Look Mr. Seldon.
Yes, at one point I and others found the Aliant server and started
using it when Sympatico finally shut down their servers. I have
absolutely no remorse or guilt about doing that.
But then a month ago the Aliant server stopped accepting connections
from Sympatico customers.
(if anyone who is an Ontario Sympatico customer is still able to use
the Aliant server, please speak up and say so).
Mr Seldon - if you look at the header of my post, you will see it was
posted via nntp.aioe.org, and not via the Aliant server.
In addition, if you are an Aliant customer, what are you doing reading
the sympatico news groups?

I can *read* whatever my ISP provides dufus. *Your* ISP provides nothing.

:-)

[H. Seldon]

Post by Human Being

Post by H. Seldon
Well it's not. You're using the server without paying for it.
All of you who are outside the Aliant customer base have been
reported.

Look Mr. Seldon.
Yes, at one point I and others found the Aliant server and started
using it when Sympatico finally shut down their servers. I have
absolutely no remorse or guilt about doing that.
But then a month ago the Aliant server stopped accepting connections
from Sympatico customers.
(if anyone who is an Ontario Sympatico customer is still able to use
the Aliant server, please speak up and say so).
Mr Seldon - if you look at the header of my post, you will see it was
posted via nntp.aioe.org, and not via the Aliant server.

Mr Human Being - if you look at the header of my post, you will see it
was posted via nntp.aioe.org as well.

*sigh*

Post by Human Being
In addition, if you are an Aliant customer, what are you doing reading
the sympatico news groups?

[Human Being]

Post by H. Seldon
Mr Human Being - if you look at the header of my post, you will
see it was posted via nntp.aioe.org as well.

And your point is?

You were the one claiming I was posting via Aliant.

So what's your beef against any Sympatico people who might be using
the Aliant server?

You say that you're not even using it.

What the hell is your problem?

[H. Seldon]

Post by Human Being

Post by H. Seldon
Mr Human Being - if you look at the header of my post, you will
see it was posted via nntp.aioe.org as well.

And your point is?
You were the one claiming I was posting via Aliant.
So what's your beef against any Sympatico people who might be using
the Aliant server?
You say that you're not even using it.
What the hell is your problem?

:-) I don't have a problem....

My original post was meant to be humorous dip-wad. All you had to do
was look at the source info and you would have known that.

But then what else would anyone expect from someone who thinks it's cool
to bypass or indeed break the law.

*sigh*

[Amun]

Post by H. Seldon

Post by Tony
A lot of newsservers still carry this newsgroup. We're trying to kickstart
this newsgroup and bring back thousands of people. At one time this was our
newsgroup. Many people still believe it is our newsgroup.

Well it's not. You're using the server without paying for it. All of
you who are outside the Aliant customer base have been reported.

I just bought the server for $20,000,000, just waiting for the actual papers
to be signed.
And hereby give EVERYONE (except spammers) permission to use it

AMUN

[H. Seldon]

Post by Tony

Post by H. Seldon

Post by Tony
A lot of newsservers still carry this newsgroup. We're trying to

kickstart

Post by H. Seldon

Post by Tony
this newsgroup and bring back thousands of people. At one time this was

our

Post by H. Seldon

Post by Tony
newsgroup. Many people still believe it is our newsgroup.

Well it's not. You're using the server without paying for it. All of
you who are outside the Aliant customer base have been reported.

I just bought the server for $20,000,000, just waiting for the actual papers
to be signed.
And hereby give EVERYONE (except spammers) permission to use it
AMUN

Thppptttt

[Amun]

Post by H. Seldon

Post by Tony

Post by H. Seldon

Post by Tony
A lot of newsservers still carry this newsgroup. We're trying to

kickstart

Post by H. Seldon

Post by Tony
this newsgroup and bring back thousands of people. At one time this was

our

Post by H. Seldon

Post by Tony
newsgroup. Many people still believe it is our newsgroup.

Well it's not. You're using the server without paying for it. All of
you who are outside the Aliant customer base have been reported.

I just bought the server for $20,000,000, just waiting for the actual papers
to be signed.
And hereby give EVERYONE (except spammers) permission to use it
AMUN

Thppptttt

That's it!, no internet for you for the rest of the day.
If you can't play nice with the other boys and girls, you can sit in your
room alone.

[fanghorn]

Post by H. Seldon

Post by Tony
A lot of newsservers still carry this newsgroup. We're trying to
kickstart this newsgroup and bring back thousands of people. At one
time this was our newsgroup. Many people still believe it is our
newsgroup.

Well it's not. You're using the server without paying for it. All of
you who are outside the Aliant customer base have been reported.

I agree with you on the point (and the misleading pseudo of the relevant
moron named STEVE), but he *isn't* using aliant, he's using the great
nowhere newsserver - check the end of the Path header.

[Tony]

Chuck this is tony, steve hasn't posted here for a long while.

Post by fanghorn

Post by H. Seldon

Post by Tony
A lot of newsservers still carry this newsgroup. We're trying to
kickstart this newsgroup and bring back thousands of people. At one
time this was our newsgroup. Many people still believe it is our
newsgroup.

Well it's not. You're using the server without paying for it. All of
you who are outside the Aliant customer base have been reported.

I agree with you on the point (and the misleading pseudo of the relevant
moron named STEVE), but he *isn't* using aliant, he's using the great
nowhere newsserver - check the end of the Path header.

[chuckcar]

Post by Tony
Chuck this is tony, steve hasn't posted here for a long while.

Post by fanghorn

Post by H. Seldon

Post by Tony
A lot of newsservers still carry this newsgroup. We're trying to
kickstart this newsgroup and bring back thousands of people. At
one time this was our newsgroup. Many people still believe it is
our newsgroup.

Well it's not. You're using the server without paying for it. All
of you who are outside the Aliant customer base have been reported.

I agree with you on the point (and the misleading pseudo of the
relevant moron named STEVE), but he *isn't* using aliant, he's using
the great nowhere newsserver - check the end of the Path header.

Bull. He's started about this month as you know from firsthand
experience and there's *never* been a posting from the REAL tony since
the newsx.sympatico's shut down.

[Andrew Taylor]

Well it's not. You're using the server without paying for it. All of you
who are outside the Aliant customer base have been reported.

So how do you figure that I am a Sympatico customer and am reading this on
an Irish news server? Usenet isn't owned by you or anyone else. If your
Usenet server carries it, it carries the posts of everyone not just your
provider.

[H. Seldon]

Post by Andrew Taylor

Well it's not. You're using the server without paying for it. All of you
who are outside the Aliant customer base have been reported.

So how do you figure that I am a Sympatico customer and am reading this on
an Irish news server? Usenet isn't owned by you or anyone else. If your
Usenet server carries it, it carries the posts of everyone not just your
provider.

Really??

[chuckcar]

Post by H. Seldon

Post by Andrew Taylor

Post by H. Seldon
Well it's not. You're using the server without paying for it. All
of you who are outside the Aliant customer base have been reported.

So how do you figure that I am a Sympatico customer and am reading
this on an Irish news server? Usenet isn't owned by you or anyone
else. If your Usenet server carries it, it carries the posts of
everyone not just your provider.

Really??

This is a *open* group on the REAL usenet - the exact opposite of the
original sympatico ones - they only existed within sympatico, this only
exists outside of it - despite the same name.

[Andrew Taylor]

Post by H. Seldon
Really??

Yes, 'fraid so. It is also available on news.bell.newshosting.com although
you have to pay to post, but you can read free. Not available on
newsgate.x-privat.org for some reason. The fact you are reading on Aliant is
irrelevant and complaining to them will bring no joy, but might however give
them a larf.

Have a good Thanksgiving weekend :>)

[chuckcar]

Post by Tony
A lot of newsservers still carry this newsgroup. We're trying to
kickstart this newsgroup and bring back thousands of people. At one
time this was our newsgroup. Many people still believe it is our
newsgroup.

Post by H. Seldon
<Leave this crap out of here>
Somewhat *Off-Topic* don't you think?? Maybe because you're some
Ontario shithead you figure you can just take this maritime server
and use it as your private bulletin board?

Who the hell is this "we"? and no your schziod personality and multiple
pseudo's don't count Steve.

[Tony]

We the people of sympatico. Who do you think? This really is tony i've been
making the sandwiches all day today at the deli. Steve is coming back from
a vacation and will be posting here soon.

Post by chuckcar

Post by Tony
A lot of newsservers still carry this newsgroup. We're trying to
kickstart this newsgroup and bring back thousands of people. At one
time this was our newsgroup. Many people still believe it is our
newsgroup.

Post by H. Seldon
<Leave this crap out of here>
Somewhat *Off-Topic* don't you think?? Maybe because you're some
Ontario shithead you figure you can just take this maritime server
and use it as your private bulletin board?

Who the hell is this "we"? and no your schziod personality and multiple
pseudo's don't count Steve.
--
(setq (chuck nil) car(chuck) )

[chuckcar]

Post by Human Being
For those of you who drive the 401 through or near London, be aware of
an unmarked dark Dodge Caravan (Blue or Green).
A light bar should be visible behind the glass of the rear hatch. No
lights on the top.
License number is AKEY 523 (first 4 letters may not be exact, but
it's 4 letters, space, and 523).
It will probably be moving with the traffic, and will nail you from
behind. Most probably it will go with traffic and wait until someone
blows past it at 130 or 140, then it will follow. If you get close
enough to it from behind, look at the plate or look for the lightbar
in the back window (the lightbar will run practically the full width
of the rear window, but is only maybe 2 inches high).
So do what I do and rotate your radar detector to point backwards from
time to time.
Watch out as operation "Highway Thievery" kicks into high gear this
holiday weekend.

What's the matter? running out of insurance companies are we?

[Human Being]

Post by chuckcar
What's the matter? running out of insurance companies are we?

What are you trying to say chucky boy

[chuckcar]

Post by Human Being

Post by chuckcar
What's the matter? running out of insurance companies are we?

What are you trying to say chucky boy

You'll find out if you keep racking up the traffic tickets... to say
nothing of possessing *banned* electronic equipment.

[repatch]

For those of you who drive the 401 through or near London, be aware of an
unmarked dark Dodge Caravan (Blue or Green).
A light bar should be visible behind the glass of the rear hatch. No
lights on the top.
License number is AKEY 523 (first 4 letters may not be exact, but it's 4
letters, space, and 523).
It will probably be moving with the traffic, and will nail you from
behind. Most probably it will go with traffic and wait until someone
blows past it at 130 or 140, then it will follow. If you get close enough
to it from behind, look at the plate or look for the lightbar in the back
window (the lightbar will run practically the full width of the rear
window, but is only maybe 2 inches high).
So do what I do and rotate your radar detector to point backwards from
time to time.
Watch out as operation "Highway Thievery" kicks into high gear this
holiday weekend.

Or simply not speed, it's not that difficult...

[Senex]

Post by Human Being
For those of you who drive the 401 through or near London, be aware of
an unmarked dark Dodge Caravan (Blue or Green).
A light bar should be visible behind the glass of the rear hatch. No
lights on the top.
License number is AKEY 523 (first 4 letters may not be exact, but
it's 4 letters, space, and 523).
It will probably be moving with the traffic, and will nail you from
behind. Most probably it will go with traffic and wait until someone
blows past it at 130 or 140, then it will follow. If you get close
enough to it from behind, look at the plate or look for the lightbar
in the back window (the lightbar will run practically the full width
of the rear window, but is only maybe 2 inches high).
So do what I do and rotate your radar detector to point backwards from
time to time.
Watch out as operation "Highway Thievery" kicks into high gear this
holiday weekend.

A 300km journey traveled at 100km/hr takes 3 hours.

A 300km journey traveled at 120km/hr takes 2.5 hours,
which means you get to your destination 30 min. sooner than the 100km/hr
driver.
Generally you're given 10km/hr grace, when exceeding the speed limit, so
the 100km/hr driver may actually be traveling at approximately 110km/hr.
Therefore, in actual fact you arrive a mere 18 minutes earlier than the
100km/hr driver.

Is the saving of that 18 minutes worth a $180.00 fine and the loss of 3
demerit points.
Further, the fine for using a radar detector ranges from $100.00 to
$1000.00 and results in the confiscation of the radar device as
well (a decent one costs in excess of $250.00).

So, let's see, so far that 18 minutes has cost you somewhere in the
vicinity of $500.00 to $700.00 and the loss of 3 demerit points.
(assuming the radar fine is way below the *maximum* fine allowed)

By the way, the shorter the trip, the more *ridiculous* the result.

You may want to take into consideration that police may set radar traps
whenever and wherever they choose. That is the law. It is *your*
responsibility to stay within the parameters of the law if you don't
want to be ticketed and fined (or worse).

When you reach the level of expertise and authority which enables you to
change the laws then do so, by all means. Until that time I would
suggest that you simply obey the current laws to the best of your
ability and make your complaints to the proper authorities, without
prejudice. You may do so as many times as you wish and I'm sure your
opinions will be given all the consideration they deserve.

In the meantime, this subject is most definitely OT